We Have Exciting News!
In this special mini-episode, Sally and Alexis discuss the rebranding of the podcast to 'Live+Work More Human' (formerly We Are Human Leaders), and the introduction of our new partner, Humanico*.
We emphasize the importance of human-centered outcomes in leadership and the need for connection in hybrid and remote teams. The conversation also highlights the exciting themes and topics planned for the upcoming season, focusing on personal development and the integration of skills in both personal and professional contexts.
We are so excited to share this news with you! Thank you so much for being an incredible member of the Live+Work More Human community.
Key Takeaways
How our rebranding reflects a broader understanding of leadership.
The ways Humanico provides a platform for organizational intelligence.
That self-leadership is crucial for personal and professional growth.
Why skills learned in work apply to personal relationships.
How the split between work and life is arbitrary.
The beautiful community feedback that shaped the rebranding decision.
That this podcast aims to invite everyone into the conversation.
The ways future episodes will cover practical skills and strategies.
And always, that focus is on becoming the best version of ourselves.
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Thank you so much for being a part of this incredible journey with us!
See the Full Conversation Transcript here:
Alexis Zahner: [00:00:00] Welcome to the Live and Work More Human podcast.
Sally Clarke: So exciting to hear you say those words, Lex. I know
Alexis Zahner: it feels. Kind of bizarre after three years of we are human leaders to be back in 2026 with a brand new rebrand.
Sally Clarke: So exciting. And I'd love to hear from you, like we've obviously had a lot of conversations about this and we came to this name and it was really a moment of like, this is it.
This is what, yeah. What it needs to do. Can you tell me a little bit about your experience of like how we've shifted, how we've come to this decision to rebrand and what it means for the podcast?
Alexis Zahner: Yeah, absolutely. I mean, it wasn't a decision we took lightly. Obviously we, we were quite attached to the We are human leaders brand and the We are Human Leaders podcast.
It's been just the most incredible vehicle that's helped us to connect to a community [00:01:00] well all around the world, really over the last three seasons. So it was something that we sat with for quite a while, but it was something that, I guess it was a combination of things, wasn't it? So like community feedback, we'd really leaned into our community of listeners.
And the one thing that we were being told is that despite the fact that we know leadership is at all levels and anyone can be a leader, a lot of people didn't see themselves because of their formal position at work represented in the title of We Are Human Leaders. So what we really wanted to do was rebrand to something where everyone felt themselves represented, so live and work more human just felt like it resonated for people regardless of their formal job title.
Um, and we just wanted to create this invitation into the conversation, so it's been a bit scary, but here we are, day one.
Sally Clarke: So excited. It's, I think it's really to echo what you're saying. I think it's, you know, I think we kind of often would push back and say, well, you know, leadership is simply, if [00:02:00] you influence someone else, you are a leader.
Like that's a very basic definition. And we've always talked about being human first and leader second. And I think a lot of the messaging resonates with a lot of people. Particularly within organizations, but it was those conversations that we were starting to have with people who were perhaps consultants or entrepreneurs outside students, different people in different places who perhaps didn't necessarily see themselves in that sort of way.
And I think it's wonderful now to have this reflection of what we're trying to do, which is to really live and to work more human. I think it also takes it a bit. More broad as well, because we've often talked about leadership in the work context, but we're broadening it really to be how we live and sort of understanding.
I think that it's sometimes it's a bit of an arbitrary split that we make between work and life.
Alexis Zahner: A hundred percent. And I think a lot of the conversations we were having were really pertinent at any level of your career, whether you are. You know, a new graduate who's entering the workforce for the first time, or maybe you're a senior executive.
Um, some of the incredible guests we had [00:03:00] last year, and some of the incredible conversations we had were skills, strategies, you know, tools, things that really help you become a better person first and foremost, and then that sort of gets integrated into work. So I love this idea that that split is quite arbitrary.
And what we're really trying to talk about here is. Realistically how we become the best version of ourselves and the incredible impact that can obviously have on our career as well.
Sally Clarke: It really is that win-win win, isn't it that it's something that we talk about a lot in our consultancy work through human leaders as well, that it's like self-leadership is not selfish.
Self-leadership. Is that sort of you? Important step that we take through improving who we are, uh, and our own self-awareness and these different aspects of our, of our, of our leadership in our lives. We have that ripple effect. We have that flow on effect. And I think that's something that matters a lot for us in the context of these conversations.
And I think another through line that we often had in speaking with people was the impact of these. Skills and practices and frameworks that we've explored in the [00:04:00] workplace, but also the potential for them to have really potent effects outside of work as well. Okay. So I think it's a really healthy, really exciting rebrand for us.
It feels so aligned. Are you? How you feeling right now?
Alexis Zahner: Yeah, I'm super excited and I just, I love that point because we are human everywhere, right? So the skills that we're learning, whether it's in the workplace setting or that's the context where you are. You know, learning the practice, practical skills or the things we're talking about.
We had a lot of people who were parents who were, um, mothers, wives, husbands, fathers, um, brothers, and using some of these skills to sort of help them in their personal relationships as well. I know, you know, we've had episodes on unblocking, um, personal biases and, uh, on competing. So all of these beautiful things are so applicable in our lives so far beyond work that.
We know that the lines, well, they're not just blurred, they don't exist. We're human everywhere. And so I just think it's [00:05:00] so fun now that we've sort of broken that barrier a little bit about having to be too leadership focused, to invite the conversation to really be like, who are we in the context of work and how can we become a better person?
And I feel super excited. I feel like it gives us a broader scope to cover some of the topics that our community have connected to us and and requested as well. Um, so it's gonna be a super big season ahead. So how are you feeling?
Sally Clarke: Yeah, I'm so excited for it, Lex. I think it really does mean that I think, you know, people will hear immediately, there's a bit of a shift in our questions.
There's a bit of a shift in our lens because we are not just looking at sort of, well, how do we interpret this as a leader in a situation? How do we, I. This as a human in this situation. And I think that's really powerful and I think it also just makes these conversations that we're having potentially much more impactful.
And that's exactly what we're about. Um, yeah. We also have some other exciting news to launch this season with drum roll. Drum roll.
Alexis Zahner: [00:06:00] Yeah. We're super excited to welcome our first ever podcast partner, Humana Co into the fold. They are an incredible Australian based, um, platform intelligence platform that helps you, um, you know, cut through the noise of all the disconnected tools and surveys that organizations might be trying to use to get helpful.
Um. Data on their employees. Everything from strengths through to engagement, through to the kinds of work they love doing, the people they feel most compatible that they can work with. It really helps drive some of the insight into that so we can really create workplaces where people and organizations both flourish as a result.
So that's a super big move for us.
Sally Clarke: It's really exciting, isn't it? And I think what I loved with was our conversations with the, the people at Humana really just reflected that win, win-win approach to, I think that we are really yeah, excited about, you know, individuals, teams, organizations, society at large.
I. [00:07:00] Flourishing as a result of the incredible products that they offer. So I think it is just pure alignment in terms of a pair of brands. So yeah, really excited to see this, uh, unfold in 2026 as well. Is there anything else that you're excited about right now for the start of the new year? Lex.
Alexis Zahner: Other than the incredible lineup of guests that we've already got on the book.
So we've had, we are, we are about to have conversations on courage. We're about to have conversations on habits. We have so many fun conversations, um, in the lineup ready to go. I think this year will be one where people really feel like. There's so much they can implement at a personal level from our podcast, and we know that that flows out When we become a better person, as a result of changing our behavior that flows into our relationships, it flows into our work and it flows into our leadership potential.
So it really does start with us and it. It flows upwards and I'm so excited just to have some of these conversations this season. What are you [00:08:00] most pumped about this year?
Sally Clarke: Yeah, I love it. Lex. I really think it's often also, particularly if we're experiencing overwhelm, uncertainty, and I think these themes are gonna continue for a lot of us being able to just focus on what can I do?
What can I change? These are conversations that will absolutely ground you in really exciting, inspiring research based. Practical ways to continue that journey. Um, I'm excited to keep having these conversations with you and these incredible guests, um, that we share the space with. It's gonna be a great one.
Alexis Zahner: think so too. So this is officially episode one of the Live and Work More Human podcast. Formerly, we are human leaders. Welcome back. If you've been with us for a while, welcome in If you are new here and we are super excited for the season ahead.
Sally Clarke: Welcome in. Thanks so much for being with us at Live and Work More Human.
You can learn more in our show notes or visit live and work more human dot com.
